The Cinematography Podcast Episode 357: Lawrence Sher, ASC

When Lawrence Sher, ASC took the job shooting Apex, he knew it was going to be both creatively and physically challenging. “The first time I landed in Australia where we shot the movie, we went on a scout in which I knew I wasn’t in good shape,” Sher admitted. “I’m like, how do I survive this movie, let alone bring cameras into these environments?”

The new Netflix movie is a survival thriller starring Charlize Theron as Sasha, a skilled climber who is hunted by a killer (Taron Egerton) through the Australian mountains. Apex currently sits at number one on Netflix. Director Balthasar Kormákur, whose filmography includes Beast, Everest and 2 Guns, is no stranger to pitting actors against nature. But Apex pushed hard against the boundaries of what conventional filmmaking could achieve. The locations were so remote and so physically demanding to reach, that traditional production equipment simply couldn’t follow. Everything the production needed had to be packed in to each location. “We basically packed Venice bodies into backpacks,” Sher explained. “All our camera assistants and ourselves, we’d all have backpacks with equipment.”

Sher’s solution to the constraints was to form a visual philosophy around them. He borrowed from the world of documentary filmmaking, specifically the kind of breathtaking climbing docs that have redefined how audiences experience vertical landscapes. “Ever since Free Solo, which brought an average person like myself into the climbing world, how could we try to go after something that could feel authentic?” Sher said. “If we were doing this as a documentary, what tools could we use?”

The team built a production toolkit that was lean, modular, and trail-ready. The Sony Venice, a compact workhorse by cinema camera standards, was paired with the Sony Rialto Mini extension system. This allowed the camera body to be separated from its sensor block for tight configurations. For movement, Sher turned to the DJI RS4 gimbal. He chose six or seven lenses, including a lightweight zoom. A collapsible accordion-style arm gave the team occasional crane-style moves without the crane. A drone also became one of the production’s most versatile tools. It could skim just above river surfaces during kayaking sequences, thread through narrow canyon walls, and provide sweeping altitude shots.

For cinematographers, exterior daylight work is always a challenge. “I knew I was going to have to come up with some zen-like philosophy as to what you can’t control,” Sher said. The film effectively takes place in real time across roughly 30 hours, so continuity of light was a constant creative negotiation. He embraced the movement of the sun as part of the film’s texture.

Apex manages to feel simultaneously vast and suffocating, as Theron’s character tries to shake her pursuer. The film’s raw imagery combined with the documentary intimacy of the camerawork let fear build the visual language of the whole film. Sher chose tight focal lengths to compress space, giving the feeling of claustrophobia even in wide-open frames. “Can we make this exciting and visceral,” Sher said, “and try to feel like we are putting ourselves in Charlize’s shoes — and make it thrilling in the most basic definition of that word?”

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CAMERA: Sony Venice II, Mini Rialto

LENSES: Camtec Falcon spherical prime, Canon FD, Laowa zooms, ARRI Signature zooms, DJI drone

 


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SHOW RUNDOWN:

02:32 Close Focus

13:01-56:48 Lawrence Sher interview

57:13 Short ends

01:07:44 Wrap up/Credits

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